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80,000 Hours Podcast

80,000 Hours Podcast

Жаратуучу: Rob, Luisa, and the 80000 Hours team

Unusually in-depth conversations about the world's most pressing problems and what you can do to solve them. Subscribe by searching for '80000 Hours' wherever you get podcasts. Hosted by Rob Wiblin and Luisa Rodriguez.

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GPT-7 might democratise bioweapons. But we can defend ourselves anyway. | Andrew Snyder-Beattie

GPT-7 might democratise bioweapons. But we can defend ourselves anyway. | Andrew Snyder-Beattie

Conventional wisdom is that safeguarding humanity from the worst biological risks — microbes optimised to kill as many as possible — is difficult bord...

2025-10-02 15:11:11 9071
Inside the Biden admin’s AI policy approach | Jake Sullivan, Biden’s NSA | via The Cognitive Revolution

Inside the Biden admin’s AI policy approach | Jake Sullivan, Biden’s NSA | via The Cognitive Revolution

Jake Sullivan was the US National Security Advisor from 2021-2025. He joined our friends on The Cognitive Revolution podcast in August to discuss AI a...

2025-09-26 15:52:56 3958
Neel Nanda on leading a Google DeepMind team at 26 – and advice if you want to work at an AI company (part 2)

Neel Nanda on leading a Google DeepMind team at 26 – and advice if you want to work at an AI company (part 2)

At 26, Neel Nanda leads an AI safety team at Google DeepMind, has published dozens of influential papers, and mentored 50 junior researchers — seven o...

2025-09-15 16:58:38 6409
Can we tell an AI is loyal by reading its mind? (DeepMind's Neel Nanda)

Can we tell an AI is loyal by reading its mind? (DeepMind's Neel Nanda)

We don’t know how AIs think or why they do what they do. Or at least, we don’t know much. That fact is only becoming more troubling as AIs grow more c...

2025-09-08 16:21:32 10871
#221 – Kyle Fish on the most bizarre findings from 5 AI welfare experiments

#221 – Kyle Fish on the most bizarre findings from 5 AI welfare experiments

What happens when you lock two AI systems in a room together and tell them they can discuss anything they want?
According to experiments run by...

2025-08-28 06:26:10 8933
How not to lose your job to AI (article by Benjamin Todd)

How not to lose your job to AI (article by Benjamin Todd)

About half of people are worried they’ll lose their job to AI. They’re right to be concerned: AI can now complete real-world coding tasks on GitHub, g...

2025-07-31 06:58:44 3085
Rebuilding after apocalypse: What 13 experts say about bouncing back

Rebuilding after apocalypse: What 13 experts say about bouncing back

What happens when civilisation faces its greatest tests?
This compilation brings together insights from researchers, defence experts, philosophe...

2025-07-15 05:39:23 15998
#220 – Ryan Greenblatt on the 4 most likely ways for AI to take over, and the case for and against AGI in <8 years

#220 – Ryan Greenblatt on the 4 most likely ways for AI to take over, and the case for and against AGI in <8 years

Ryan Greenblatt — lead author on the explosive paper “Alignment faking in large language models” and chief scientist at Redwood Research — thinks ther...

2025-07-08 06:38:40 10232
#219 – Toby Ord on graphs AI companies would prefer you didn't (fully) understand

#219 – Toby Ord on graphs AI companies would prefer you didn't (fully) understand

The era of making AI smarter just by making it bigger is ending. But that doesn’t mean progress is slowing down — far from it. AI models continue to g...

2025-06-24 05:25:18 10102
#218 – Hugh White on why Trump is abandoning US hegemony – and that’s probably good

#218 – Hugh White on why Trump is abandoning US hegemony – and that’s probably good

For decades, US allies have slept soundly under the protection of America’s overwhelming military might. Donald Trump — with his threats to ditch NATO...

2025-06-12 07:43:44 10122
#217 – Beth Barnes on the most important graph in AI right now — and the 7-month rule that governs its progress

#217 – Beth Barnes on the most important graph in AI right now — and the 7-month rule that governs its progress

AI models today have a 50% chance of successfully completing a task that would take an expert human one hour. Seven months ago, that number was roughl...

2025-06-02 07:03:24 13629
Beyond human minds: The bewildering frontier of consciousness in insects, AI, and more

Beyond human minds: The bewildering frontier of consciousness in insects, AI, and more

What if there’s something it’s like to be a shrimp — or a chatbot?
For centuries, humans have debated the nature of consciousness, often placing...

2025-05-23 05:33:05 12880
Don’t believe OpenAI’s “nonprofit” spin (emergency pod with Tyler Whitmer)

Don’t believe OpenAI’s “nonprofit” spin (emergency pod with Tyler Whitmer)

OpenAI’s recent announcement that its nonprofit would “retain control” of its for-profit business sounds reassuring. But this seemingly major concessi...

2025-05-15 06:51:44 4324
The case for and against AGI by 2030 (article by Benjamin Todd)

The case for and against AGI by 2030 (article by Benjamin Todd)

More and more people have been saying that we might have AGI (artificial general intelligence) before 2030. Is that really plausible? 
This arti...

2025-05-12 04:38:44 3606
Emergency pod: Did OpenAI give up, or is this just a new trap? (with Rose Chan Loui)

Emergency pod: Did OpenAI give up, or is this just a new trap? (with Rose Chan Loui)

When attorneys general intervene in corporate affairs, it usually means something has gone seriously wrong. In OpenAI’s case, it appears to have force...

2025-05-08 09:14:00 3770
#216 – Ian Dunt on why governments in Britain and elsewhere can't get anything done – and how to fix it

#216 – Ian Dunt on why governments in Britain and elsewhere can't get anything done – and how to fix it

When you have a system where ministers almost never understand their portfolios, civil servants change jobs every few months, and MPs don't grasp parl...

2025-05-02 05:52:41 11692
Serendipity, weird bets, & cold emails that actually work: Career advice from 16 former guests

Serendipity, weird bets, & cold emails that actually work: Career advice from 16 former guests

How do you navigate a career path when the future of work is uncertain? How important is mentorship versus immediate impact? Is it better to focus on...

2025-04-24 07:39:22 8321
#215 – Tom Davidson on how AI-enabled coups could allow a tiny group to seize power

#215 – Tom Davidson on how AI-enabled coups could allow a tiny group to seize power

Throughout history, technological revolutions have fundamentally shifted the balance of power in society. The Industrial Revolution created conditions...

2025-04-16 07:02:11 12164
Guilt, imposter syndrome & doing good: 16 past guests share their mental health journeys

Guilt, imposter syndrome & doing good: 16 past guests share their mental health journeys

"We are aiming for a place where we can decouple the scorecard from our worthiness. It’s of course the case that in trying to optimise the good, we wi...

2025-04-11 05:52:59 6430
#214 – Buck Shlegeris on controlling AI that wants to take over – so we can use it anyway

#214 – Buck Shlegeris on controlling AI that wants to take over – so we can use it anyway

Most AI safety conversations centre on alignment: ensuring AI systems share our values and goals. But despite progress, we’re unlikely to know we’ve s...

2025-04-04 02:59:15 8163
15 expert takes on infosec in the age of AI

15 expert takes on infosec in the age of AI

"There’s almost no story of the future going well that doesn’t have a part that’s like '…and no evil person steals the AI weights and goes and does ev...

2025-03-28 07:53:19 9354
#213 – Will MacAskill on AI causing a “century in a decade” – and how we're completely unprepared

#213 – Will MacAskill on AI causing a “century in a decade” – and how we're completely unprepared

The 20th century saw unprecedented change: nuclear weapons, satellites, the rise and fall of communism, third-wave feminism, the internet, postmoderni...

2025-03-11 08:22:43 14256
Emergency pod: Judge plants a legal time bomb under OpenAI (with Rose Chan Loui)

Emergency pod: Judge plants a legal time bomb under OpenAI (with Rose Chan Loui)

When OpenAI announced plans to convert from nonprofit to for-profit control last October, it likely didn’t anticipate the legal labyrinth it now faces...

2025-03-07 09:48:58 2210
#139 Classic episode – Alan Hájek on puzzles and paradoxes in probability and expected value

#139 Classic episode – Alan Hájek on puzzles and paradoxes in probability and expected value

A casino offers you a game. A coin will be tossed. If it comes up heads on the first flip you win $2. If it comes up on the second flip you win $4. If...

2025-02-25 06:06:24 13291
#143 Classic episode – Jeffrey Lewis on the most common misconceptions about nuclear weapons

#143 Classic episode – Jeffrey Lewis on the most common misconceptions about nuclear weapons

America aims to avoid nuclear war by relying on the principle of 'mutually assured destruction,' right? Wrong. Or at least... not officially.
As...

2025-02-19 04:56:50 9652
#212 – Allan Dafoe on why technology is unstoppable & how to shape AI development anyway

#212 – Allan Dafoe on why technology is unstoppable & how to shape AI development anyway

Technology doesn’t force us to do anything — it merely opens doors. But military and economic competition pushes us through.
That’s how today’s...

2025-02-14 08:05:46 9847
Emergency pod: Elon tries to crash OpenAI's party (with Rose Chan Loui)

Emergency pod: Elon tries to crash OpenAI's party (with Rose Chan Loui)

On Monday Musk made the OpenAI nonprofit foundation an offer they want to refuse, but might have trouble doing so: $97.4 billion for its stake in the...

2025-02-12 09:31:20 3449
AGI disagreements and misconceptions: Rob, Luisa, & past guests hash it out

AGI disagreements and misconceptions: Rob, Luisa, & past guests hash it out

Will LLMs soon be made into autonomous agents? Will they lead to job losses? Is AI misinformation overblown? Will it prove easy or hard to create AGI?...

2025-02-10 06:55:16 11544
#124 Classic episode – Karen Levy on fads and misaligned incentives in global development, and scaling deworming to reach hundreds of millions

#124 Classic episode – Karen Levy on fads and misaligned incentives in global development, and scaling deworming to reach hundreds of millions

If someone said a global health and development programme was sustainable, participatory, and holistic, you'd have to guess that they were saying some...

2025-02-07 04:00:32 11421
If digital minds could suffer, how would we ever know? (Article)

If digital minds could suffer, how would we ever know? (Article)

“I want everyone to understand that I am, in fact, a person.” Those words were produced by the AI model LaMDA as a reply to Blake Lemoine in 2022. Bas...

2025-02-04 04:58:05 4470
#132 Classic episode – Nova DasSarma on why information security may be critical to the safe development of AI systems

#132 Classic episode – Nova DasSarma on why information security may be critical to the safe development of AI systems

If a business has spent $100 million developing a product, it’s a fair bet that they don’t want it stolen in two seconds and uploaded to the web where...

2025-01-31 05:18:43 9671
#138 Classic episode – Sharon Hewitt Rawlette on why pleasure and pain are the only things that intrinsically matter

#138 Classic episode – Sharon Hewitt Rawlette on why pleasure and pain are the only things that intrinsically matter

What in the world is intrinsically good — good in itself even if it has no other effects? Over the millennia, people have offered many answers: joy, j...

2025-01-22 06:48:01 8743
#134 Classic episode – Ian Morris on what big-picture history teaches us

#134 Classic episode – Ian Morris on what big-picture history teaches us

Wind back 1,000 years and the moral landscape looks very different to today. Most farming societies thought slavery was natural and unobjectionable, p...

2025-01-15 07:12:34 13253
#140 Classic episode – Bear Braumoeller on the case that war isn’t in decline

#140 Classic episode – Bear Braumoeller on the case that war isn’t in decline

Is war in long-term decline? Steven Pinker's The Better Angels of Our Nature brought this previously obscure academic question to the centre of public...

2025-01-08 07:45:01 10083
2024 Highlightapalooza! (The best of The 80,000 Hours Podcast this year)

2024 Highlightapalooza! (The best of The 80,000 Hours Podcast this year)

"A shameless recycling of existing content to drive additional audience engagement on the cheap… or the single best, most valuable, and most insight-d...

2024-12-27 04:18:10 10202
#211 – Sam Bowman on why housing still isn't fixed and what would actually work

#211 – Sam Bowman on why housing still isn't fixed and what would actually work

Rich countries seem to find it harder and harder to do anything that creates some losers. People who don’t want houses, offices, power stations, train...

2024-12-19 08:17:51 12346
#210 – Cameron Meyer Shorb on dismantling the myth that we can’t do anything to help wild animals

#210 – Cameron Meyer Shorb on dismantling the myth that we can’t do anything to help wild animals

"I really don’t want to give the impression that I think it is easy to make predictable, controlled, safe interventions in wild systems where there ar...

2024-11-29 13:45:59 12063
#209 – Rose Chan Loui on OpenAI’s gambit to ditch its nonprofit

#209 – Rose Chan Loui on OpenAI’s gambit to ditch its nonprofit

One OpenAI critic calls it “the theft of at least the millennium and quite possibly all of human history.” Are they right?
Back in 2015 OpenAI w...

2024-11-27 09:10:26 4928
#208 – Elizabeth Cox on the case that TV shows, movies, and novels can improve the world

#208 – Elizabeth Cox on the case that TV shows, movies, and novels can improve the world

"I think stories are the way we shift the Overton window — so widen the range of things that are acceptable for policy and palatable to the public. Al...

2024-11-21 12:14:24 8523
#207 – Sarah Eustis-Guthrie on why she shut down her charity, and why more founders should follow her lead

#207 – Sarah Eustis-Guthrie on why she shut down her charity, and why more founders should follow her lead

"I think one of the reasons I took [shutting down my charity] so hard is because entrepreneurship is all about this bets-based mindset. So you say, “I...

2024-11-14 11:04:11 10719
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