Talk About That
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Talk About That
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
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Tunnels, Sarcasm, and Encouragement
John is enamored with his car's technology and patiently awaits Nashville's new tunnel system. Meanwhile, Jonnie does a show for people in recovery an...
Nixon's Pup, Guy Movies, and Failure
John wants a 3D printed liver and spends a week at home alone watching movies his wife would hate. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders how adorable old politica...
Spider Therapy, Shark Jumping, and Anxiety
John goes snake hunting and tells us why he doesn't like scary movies. Meanwhile Jonnie visits Stephen King's house in Maine and shares the story of t...
Car Wrecks, Jingles, and Virtue Signaling
John has a serious dilemma when choosing a license plate and is upset by the current trends in facial hair. Meanwhile, Jonnie gives an update on his s...
ChatBots, Mystery Notes, and Tradition
John pits AI servers against one another and learns about a war that lasted about as long as this episode. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a mysterious note fr...
Mouth Tape, Old Hymns, and Confirmation Bias
John tells us his elaborate sleeping regimen, and tries to bring back the offeratory in church services. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a case of the "church...
Fencepost Turtles, Boat People, and The Pursuit of Happiness
John doesn't have time to kayak and doesn't sell his soul (because he got no offers). Meanwhile, Jonnie performs feats of strength at a show, and tell...
Engine Explosions, Bird Attacks, and Hopelessness
John learns about the Mandela Effect and tells us whether he'd sell the awards he's won for writing. Meanwhile, Jonnie opens a timeshare for birds and...
Stolen Phones, Window Taxes, and Bad Referees
John celebrates the contentious history of the ice cream cone, and never goes anywhere without his emergency jacket. Meanwhile, Jonnie hurts himself o...
Groundhog Day, Tomatoes, and Masculinity
John traps a groundhog and immediately makes it into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn't like it when restaurants use animals as mascots,...
Tree Invasions, Listener Emails, and Idols
John goes for a jog and gets attacked by an unlikely predator. Meanwhile, Jonnie decides not to tell his Kenny Rogers joke for a very good reason, and...
Civil War, Bad Sequels, and Moods
John goes to an archeological dig and channels his inner Indiana Jones for a history book project. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes us behind the scenes for hi...
Varmints, Walkmans, and Servanthood
John fights to remove some unwelcome houseguests before they cost him his savings (and sanity). Meanwhile, Jonnie gets creeped out in the restroom at...
Uncle Sam, Rabbit Attacks, and Gratefulness
John has an awkward encounter with a possum and issues a retraction about St. Bernards. Meanwhile, Jonnie performs at a wedding reception and reveals...
Disney Hugs, Ranch Retractions, and Battles
John issues a retraction about ranch dressing and pours money into an old car. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals why a hug from a Disney character is the best...
90's Country, Lottery Dreams, and Ego Death
John puts himself on the (literal) hot seat and buys a Cadillac made of gold. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us about the "Dancing Plague" of the 16th Centur...
Family Trips, 3-Year Beards, and Self-Talk
John stays in a hiking lodge with strangers and tells us why some things are better off being dirty. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a mishap trimming his goate...
Guillotines, Saint Bernards, and Movies
John wants to take a long train ride and is exhausted by AI deep fake videos. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a Facebook comment that is actually helpful and m...
A-Listers, Interrupting Dogs, and Inspiration
John defies his GPS and begrudgingly admits his father's motto was actually pretty great. Meanwhile, Jonnie brags about his elite status on a budget a...
Ghost Camels, Arranged Marriages, and Dyed Souls
John has specific instructions for his wife when he dies, and reveals his obsession with vice grip pliers. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the real villain...
Dopamine, Extra Bread, and Complexity
John critiques the Big Mac and tries to be productive, but only if he can track it on his phone. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a decade-old video go viral and...
Elon Implants, Lottery Cheats, and Emotional Maturity
John gets invited by Jonnie to a gender reveal party for an insect and refuses to get his brain hacked by Elon Musk. Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks Abe Linc...
Disney Trips, Shiny Heads, and Impostor Syndrome
John tries to stop his head from shining, and tells us the illustrious history of the Slurpee. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes to a 20 year old movie, and shar...
Movie Theaters, Magic Tricks, and Hardships
John teaches us about the history of candy and ponders growing a skullet. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a senior moment at the movie theater and tries to find...
Roadrunner Rules, Bruce Almighty, and Main Character Energy
John ponders whether anyone "hate listens" to the show and makes sermon illustrations out of old cartoons. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why the first ce...
Manglers, Acai Bowls, and Integrity
John gets bougie with the sideline snacks for his daughter's volleyball game and wonders if Daniel from the Bible snuggled with the lions. Meanwhile,...
Secret Microphones, Escalators, and Reactionaryism
John gets secret messages in his ear during worship and ponders whether we need merch. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets interviewed by an 80's comedy icon and t...
Old Technology, Deathbed Confessions, and Transactional Love
John ponders how many pics of his kid is too many and vigorously defends coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals what all rock band photos have in common a...
Mr. Icee, Hula Hoops, and Suffering
John tells us about his short-lived career as a rapper and ponders how much protection his book would offer against a would be assassin. Meanwhile, Jo...
Detachable Faces, Red Carnations, and Neighbors
John reads a listener email and wishes we could be a zany Morning Zoo Radio Show. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an important retraction from last week (becaus...
Memory Lanes, Grammar Police, and Certainty
John cleans out his office and gets mad at his younger self while listening to some old tapes. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the history of the windshiel...
Overpacking, Phone Addiction, and Vulnerability
John does some retail therapy and ponders a bold new way to reduce his screen time. Meanwhile, Jonnie hits the road with way too much luggage and tell...
Our Goal in Life Should Not Be Happiness. But What Should It Be Instead?
"You do not need to know precisely what is happening or exactly where it is all going. What you need is to recognize the possibilities and challenges...
Is Knowing Too Much Killing Our Brains? Information Overload in the Age of the Internet
Bertrand Russell said, “There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge.” If there was ever a flagship quote for our podcast, is this it? A...
Healthy Self-Awareness vs Unhealthy Navel-Gazing: What’s the Difference?
"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate." - Carl Jung. Self-awareness is a double-edged sword....
Avoiding the Comparison Trap in Your Career (Plus Missed Opportunities & Fingerless Gloves)
John comes in second place A LOT and tries his best to look menacing on his way to Walgreens. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats way too many caramels and learns...
How Gratitude Can Quiet Your Anxiety (Plus Reclaimed Beanies & Going to Movies)
"He who fears he shall suffer, already suffers what he fears." - Michel de Montaigne. This guy said that in the 1500s… so anxiety has been around for...
Inconvenience or Adventure? How Perspective Shapes Experience (Plus: Christmas Pickles)
Think about it: the greatest adventures you’ve experienced almost certainly had inconveniences. What mishaps are you currently experiencing that might...
Burning Rugs, Explosive Shoes, and Self-Righteousness
John becomes an impromptu firefighter and turns Jonnie's rental car story into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets flagged at the airport an...
Santa Stops, Prison Visits, and Advent
John questions Santa's delivery route and takes a private jet straight to prison. Meanwhile, Jonnie has his rental car confiscated in the middle of th...